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how to report NICs due on expenses if the expenses can't yet be paid because of lack of income!

Help, please! I am completely confused about how to deal with NICs due on expenses for our relatively new CIC. There is such a minefield of requirements out there that it is very hard for a single,…Continue

Started May 10, 2012

Does a CIC need an official Secretary?
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Hi there,I wonder if anyone can enlighten me as to whether a CIC needs an official "Secretary" as well as Directors? So far, we've operated with just two directors, who are the only people involved…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Elizabeth McClelland Dec 7, 2011.

Could ethical pricing structure be discriminatory?
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I wonder if anyone in the CIC association has any ideas about my dilema?I have a very effective new school literacy support programme, and I set up Move4words CIC to provide the programme for…Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Elizabeth McClelland Nov 14, 2011.

Free banking for CICs?
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Does anyone have experience in getting free banking from any of the high street banks for their CIC? I'm just setting up, and am looking to get a business account started.Continue

Started this discussion. Last reply by Elizabeth McClelland Feb 8, 2011.

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Paul Gill replied to Elizabeth McClelland's discussion Is a Community Interest Company a "close company" for Self-Assessment Tax purposes? in the group Accounts Group
"Hello Buffy, Is this any help. Close Company In the UK there is a term called "close company" status and this is completely different from closing a company down and it affect private limited companies (ltd) in the UK. A close company is…"
Jan 21, 2013
Elizabeth McClelland added a discussion to the group Accounts Group
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Is a Community Interest Company a "close company" for Self-Assessment Tax purposes?

I am currently doing my first Self-Assessment Tax return as director of Move4words CIC.I find myself stumped by the question following the one in which I said Yes to being a director: If 'Yes', was this company a close company?Is a CIC limited by share (£2) and with only two participants (both directors) a close company? If it is, what are the implications?HMRC defines a 'close company' for Corporation Tax purposes as a company that is controlled directly or indirectly by five or fewer…See More
Jan 20, 2013
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This Group is for those who are looking for additional board members.This could be for extra experience, input and support,or/and,to meet grant application requirements that specify a minimum of 2 or 3 non-related members or directors.See More
Jan 18, 2013
Elizabeth McClelland replied to Paul Gill's discussion Maybe this could be the answer to your problems for investment. in the group CICs seeking investment
"Hi Paul, Excellent idea! My husband and I are the Directors of Move4words CIC, and we fall foul of the requirements to have unrelated directors for various funding opportunities. We work in Primary Education, using a novel method of helping deprived…"
Jan 16, 2013
Elizabeth McClelland replied to Steve Goswell's discussion Grants for your CIC in the group CICs seeking investment
"Thanks, Sarah. I get the weekly alerts from funding central, which I always look through, but there is never anything that fits my CIC!"
Jan 9, 2013
Elizabeth McClelland replied to Steve Goswell's discussion Grants for your CIC in the group CICs seeking investment
"Just spotted this thread, so I'm posting rather late in the day! We are really in need of support with fund-raising for our 2-year old CIC, Move4words which provides literacy and learning support for UK Primary Schools. We have spent a lot of…"
Jan 8, 2013
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CICs seeking investment

If you would like the Association to get involved with helping you raise funds, please register your interest here and we will contact you to discuss your individual requirements. CIC Association recommends for start ups/small projects :Awards for All (Not for profit-3 Directors required, up to £10k) Unltd (For funding individuals…See More
Jan 8, 2013
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how to report NICs due on expenses if the expenses can't yet be paid because of lack of income!

Help, please! I am completely confused about how to deal with NICs due on expenses for our relatively new CIC. There is such a minefield of requirements out there that it is very hard for a single, already hard-pressed individual to keep on top of everything that must be done to run a CIC!Background: This is the first time I've had to report as we started in Jan 2011. I'm the sole active person in the company, and have made a considerable loan to the company to do the necessary development…See More
May 10, 2012
Elizabeth McClelland replied to Joseph Deeney's discussion Director/employee tax arrangements - help please! in the group Accounts Group
"Hi Victoria, I wish I'd realised this before I set up a CIC! However, it is academic at the moment, as the income from the CIC is still very low and doesn't cover costs let alone salaries. I hope that this problem is sorted out before it…"
Mar 23, 2012
Elizabeth McClelland replied to Joseph Deeney's discussion Director/employee tax arrangements - help please! in the group Accounts Group
"I'd like to add my comment that Recommendation 3 is my preferred option, relating to the discussion you alluded to above. It does sound a much simpler approach to the current situation. When is the upcoming Regulator's review of the caps…"
Feb 23, 2012
Elizabeth McClelland replied to Joseph Deeney's discussion Director/employee tax arrangements - help please! in the group Accounts Group
"Really helpful detailed advice by Alastair, thanks. The CIC only is liable for the Employers NIC contributions (at 13.8%), not the personal tax and NI contributions, so the liability for the CIC is not anywhere as onerous as Joseph is thinking.…"
Feb 22, 2012
Elizabeth McClelland replied to Joseph Deeney's discussion Director/employee tax arrangements - help please! in the group Accounts Group
"Dear Joseph, I'm very interested to hear what anyone else has to say on this issue, as I set up a CIC( providing a very effective school programme to help children improve literacy) with myself as the sole active worker and director, and have…"
Feb 21, 2012
Elizabeth McClelland replied to Elizabeth McClelland's discussion HMRC reporting for director's salary below tax threshold in the group Accounts Group
"Aha! Sorry to be dumb, but I hadn't notice that there was a link in your reply. That form is exactly what I need! Thank you very much regards Buffy"
Jan 27, 2012
Dick Maule FCA replied to Elizabeth McClelland's discussion HMRC reporting for director's salary below tax threshold in the group Accounts Group
"ok,,,,instead of having to go through the whole rigmarole of filing annual return, if you paid no tax just complete the form i sent instead"
Jan 27, 2012
Elizabeth McClelland replied to Elizabeth McClelland's discussion HMRC reporting for director's salary below tax threshold in the group Accounts Group
"Thanks, Dick. Not quite sure what you meant by your message. I've decided it would be best to register for PAYE, so have done that already, just waiting for the PAYE number to arrive. Hope it gets here before my total hip replacement on 31st…"
Jan 27, 2012

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What is your postcode?
OX4
Name of organisation (if any) you are associated with?
Move4words Community Interest Company
Is that organisation a CIC?
Yes
If you have a website, what is your web address?
http://www.move4words.org.uk
Are you interested in representing a CIC at the CIC Association AGM?
No
Are you interested in working in partnership with the CIC Association?
No

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At 14:34 on February 8, 2011, Elizabeth McClelland said…

've just set up Move4words CIC to provide my new coordinated body and eye movement programme for low prices to UK schools. There is really impressive evidence to demonstrate the programme's effectiveness in raising literacy and academic performance in both Primary and Secondary school children.

I'm currently offering the programme for the price of my travel expenses only, to any schools which would like to use the programme after Easter 2011, and in return, provide some more evidence for the effects on educationally relevant factors like concentration, reading comprehension, behaviour etc.

 
 
 

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