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Accounting for joint fundraising campaign by two CICs

Hi.   I've got a situation where two (very small) CICs have agreed to do a joint fundraising campaign for an urgent need where their purposes overlap (it involves a minority community in the…Continue

Tags: legal, issues., joint, campaign, fenced

Started by Nathanael Lewis May 31.

Urgent help needed with CT600 1 Reply

Dear all!I run a small CIC with very limited funds. Our numbers are simple and we have calculated a loss for the 2 years we have been running.Last year my family accountant did our accounts and was…Continue

Started by Aaminah Patel. Last reply by Louise poor May 21.

Completing CT600 1 Reply

Hi - We are setting up a new CIC. It will be quite small scale employing one person part time. Income will be ~ £6/7K. There will be around 260 transactions per year. We want to keep costs down. In…Continue

Started by Pete Scott. Last reply by Louise poor May 21.

Corporation tax

I am helping a couple of CICs in Bristol and would welcome some help on what is eligible or not for corporation taxEg are donations/fundraising wholely and freely given not liable for tax.What is the…Continue

Started by Jonathan Stephens Sep 3, 2019.

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Comment by Mahmood Reza on April 10, 2019 at 21:21
Hi Rachel
Depends on what you mean by problems. As long as it’s accounted for, due diligence carried re the source of the donations, and no undue influence on running of CIC by donors. then all should be fine. If a donation Corp tax is unlikely to apply, no gift aid claim by donor (unless you’re a Charity).
Hope this helps
Comment by Rachel Gardiner-Hill on April 10, 2019 at 20:40


We are lucky enough to have a philanthropic individual who would like to donate monies yearly to our CIC over the next four years.  Are there are problems associated with CIC's receiving donations per se?

Comment by Mahmood Reza on March 8, 2019 at 9:15


Hi Rachel,

What's the nature and information that you are after.  Based on the latter bit of your request, and as starter for 10  I've uploaded an article I wrote on Paying Volunteers  and HMRC - link at the top of the page.



Comment by Rachel Gardiner-Hill on February 27, 2019 at 16:14


Can anyone offer any thoughts about where we can information about setting up a training bursary scheme within our CIC.  We want to be able to help subsidise training for our volunteers that enable them to carry out their role so related.  I recognise that there are HMRC regs around benefits in kind for volunteers but don't really know where to start.  Thanks. Rachel

Comment by Annette Rhodes on February 8, 2019 at 0:19

Hello everyone.

I am beyond angry and need to rant.

I spent hours - you all know how many - compiling the annual report, CIC34 and accounts.   Our accountant checked everything over before it was sent.
On the end of the Directors' report I typed "report compiled by", printed my name, and signed and dated it.  My name is also cited as the founding director on the headed paper on which we printed the annual directors' report.
I filed in plenty of time.  Now, with only 5 days to go before deadline, I have received all the documentation back again, with the one line explanation ""The name of the signatory is not present on the Directors' Report".
It is debatable whether or not this is actually true, (see above).  However, even if one accepts that I am stupid and have neglected to understand the exact precise wording which is acceptable to Companies House in this matter, haven't these people got better things to do than enforce the tiniest letter of their law on people who, after all, are spending hundreds of hours per year, for free, trying to make life better for their community?

What magic formulation of words should I use?  "Signed by"?  "Print name"?  At this point, I'm open to anyone's guesses!

Comment by Karen Haworth on July 2, 2018 at 17:51

Looking for accountants in the North West. Knowledge of CIC and trading internationally.

Comment by Patricia on April 16, 2018 at 11:46

Hello - we are a trading CIC and all surplus profits will be gift aided to our CIO at year end. I understand we have nine months to complete this transfer and just wondered how it should be shown in the accounts ie should we show a nil balance or can we carry forward any accruals?

Comment by Rachel Gardiner-Hill on February 20, 2018 at 17:17


Can anyone share their experience of managing reaching the trigger point for VAT registration as a CIC, we hadn't thought we would get to ti this financial year but it's approaching at the speed of an express train and we will have to do it soon.  This is problematic for us as a counselling CIC as it runs counter to our social mission of providing affordable counselling as it will involve a further fees hike increase on the back of one we have just done annually.  We recognise we don't qualify under healthcare professional exemptions but wonder how others have met this challenge.

Comment by Naresh Rao on January 13, 2018 at 17:11


I specialise in CICs so why don't you ring me to discuss your situation.

If you have very few transactions  the accounts should be relatively simple. Not sure why you accountants are being so slow.


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Comment by Simon Odell on January 13, 2018 at 15:42

Hi My CIC has been going a few years and I have had an accountant who was reasonable in dealing with everything. This year they have been rather slow and a bit tetchy when I have asked about progress quoting new complexities - but my CIC probably has only about a dozen in/out transactons!. I am now rather anxious about contacting again but I have for a few weeks now been worried that they are not going to complete the submission nor let me know in time to find someone else. Submission is due by April. How  long should I leave them to complete before finding someone else? And is there a thread on this group which talks about recommended accountants? (I can't see a search button)


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